MICROBES/IMO4
STRUCTURE/WCAP 1:1000
MINERALS/SEAWATER 1:20
MEDICINE/OHN 1:1000
CLEANSER/BRV 1:500
loess rockdust 3%
“Master Cho’s Moss on a tree solution” recipe from Drake’s PureKNF certification course video on youtube
Saw this asked and answered on last weeks office hour, but maybe someone else want’s to know too!
Long live the natural farmer!
- julia answered 2 years ago
Jadam uses a method call putrefaction, which leads to many disease causing bacteria to be present. Will it translate to your plantings and be harmful for consumption is based on dilution and time of consumption after application. I do not recommend eating food that has been treated within two weeks.
Not all anaerobic bacteria are bad, but our bodies have developed mechanisms to detect them, such as horrible smells and wicked tastes to avoid our consumption of them to err on the safe side of life.
- drake answered 2 years ago
fermenting them twice i would think not through the first ferment we r collecting id guess 70-80% or so of the amino acid it would probably be ok to add the left overs to a new batch and let them continue to break down but would best be used in the hugel or compost and let nature break down all that big stuff the bugs n what not will break it down much faster
Happy Experimenting
- dagoofman answered 2 years ago
Mulching it and concentrating the wood chips in the area you will be growing in is what I recommend. Even though it has toxic sap, that will quickly be broken down by microbes and will not inhibit the effectiveness of it as a mulch. You want to be careful not to scrape up too much of the thin soil you have, so adding a thick layer of mulch will help build more soil where you need it. Also be careful of erosion after clearing, and the subsequent weeds/grasses that will thrive when the land has been cleared.
I also recommend going slow and steady, and instead of clearing the land and getting rid of all the trees, doing it slowly, clearing only what is necessary at the time, and planting in between your existing cover, and as those trees grow, clearing out the christmas berry. This is a huge carbon store for you, and if it is all dropped at one time, it will quickly (within a year) be gone and then you will have to grow other things or import mulch to keep up the fertility of the area.
Also, think of the christmas berry as a resource, as I mentioned today in the Office Hour, Richard Perea used to use the christmas berry very effectively when he was living out in the Kau region.
- drake answered 2 years ago
this is fully dependent on how you want to grow, if you where wanting to go with a more hydroponics way (like flow through) the solutions are water soluble IMOs can be used in liquid form, if you are looking for more a living soil type system then adding amendments and IMOs to the mix is fine (IMOs should be used as a top dress here) there is no rule that says we cant put whatever we want in the soil, think of it like a food bank for the microbes ….KNF solutions are always best used as a foliar spray but drenching is also fine ….this is one of the greatest things about Natural Farming it can be adapted to many ways from large commercial scale all the way down to a plant growing on the window seal, in the most high tech grow facility to the the most basic backyard garden
Happy Experimenting
- dagoofman answered 2 years ago
LAB should be super saturated with brown sugar for storage just the whey and sugar ….it looks as if you have added the lab and molasses to water by doing this you are activating the solution for its ready to use state and it does not last long before other microbes like yeast n molds move in feeding on the sugar and water ….it can still be used theres not a bunch of molds you can either skim off the mold or mix it in the LAB should overpower anything you mix into the liquid but use it up before it does go really bad on you…. for long term storage the best way is to super saturate it by adding the dry sugar we lock up all the water and put the microbes into a type of hibernation then when we add the solution to water it brings the microbes back to action …check out this vid from drake on how to super saturateΒ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcji0fNt5f0
- dagoofman answered 2 years ago
I have seen soy amino acids on the market being sold as a vegan replacement for fish aminos ….in theory a KNF Food (FPJ) made of a plant high in aminos like soy might work as a replacement for KNF Fuel (FAA)… i have no idea the amount that would be used that would be fully experimental … KNF Sweet Food (FFJ) should supply all the P & K that the plant needs along with KNF Structure (WCAP) but it never hurts to add a lil dolomite lime to the soil … we also have to always remember that KNF is a system as a whole and other parts of the system help to fill in holes from another its like a orchestra if some instruments are missing it may still sound good but its at its best if all the instruments are there
Happy Experimenting
- dagoofman answered 2 years ago
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Sure you could, but you run the risk of wetting the sugar and decreasing its osmotic drawing power. You want the sugar to be dry. Also, adding liquid is generally discouraged when making any of the sugar based solutions UNTILL AFTER fermentation is complete and you’re ready to apply it. Simply, the recipe doesn’t call for water because it doesn’t need it. True, if the LAB has been supersaturated with sugar already the risk would be less. If your knfFood material hasn’t been washed tho, lactobacillus microbes should be present on its surface already, so no need add anything extra. Cheers π
- suzepureknf answered 2 years ago
All KNF solutions can go bad this is why its taught ( The nose knows! ) if it smells bad then it has gone bad …LABΒ has one of the shortest shelf life’s in KNF its only recommended to store it for about 1 year if not refrigerated …i make LAB a few times a season cause its so simple to make ..i try not to make too much and try to use whatever’s left over in the house over the winter to clean or take some LAB baths ( great for your skin and helps healing minor skin wounds ) i probably use LAB just as much for personal use as i do out in the garden
- dagoofman answered 2 years ago
No … porous vessels are not advised in storing or fermenting of KNF inputs … when making inputs we are drawing out the liquids in the plants through osmotic pressure and fermentation then binding the liquids with sugar for preservation by using a porous vessel this allows the liquids to seep into the walls of the vessel and evaporate this is why un-glazed pots are used in dry hot climates it creates evaporative cooling to keep the soil cool in the pot …. any non-porous vessel can be used glass or glazed stoneware is best for fermentation and storage … i do use recycled food plastics for storage (mostly coffee creamer bottles) and food grade plastics can be used for fermentation although its not the best choice but it does work just fine my favorite way to make inputs is in mason jars the jar rings make for a simple way to get a cloth/paper top (i use paper coffee filters) on the vessel so it gets the proper breathability for the fermentation process
Happy Experimenting
- dagoofman answered 2 years ago