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I would have to say yes being that LAB lives on everything and everywhere and that the starch collection will still attract the LAB from the air and that by propagating in the milk u should still get a LAB only full spectrum solution afterwards One of the ideas behind KNF is that u use what is natural to u theres not many very specific things that r done only X way i think many things r more bullet points that u wanna hit like in LAB its attract with a simple starch propagate in any animal milk i dont feel the source of starch  or milk really matters as much as the method to achieve the end results Same as would be in the next step of LAB to preserve it well how much sugar u add is irrelevant because its the super saturation point u r trying to achieve and the amount of sugar u will use to get there is undetermined what matters there is u use brown sugar to lock up all the water to place the LAB in hibernation for storage Things to think of is what may work it Korea may not work in Arizona but the method still does its how to adapt to your Naturel environment and make it work for u

“Slight yellowing” you say? … Sounds like you need to add calcium phosphate (knfStructure) to your spray cocktail. Similar to how the present day patriarchal Christianity forgets the fourth element (Mother Mary) so too some forget calcium phosphate in the Maintenance Formula. Dilute 1:1000 and combine with knfFood (fpj), knfCleanser (raw vinegar) and knfMedicine (ohn). Of course ohn completes this magic solution but if you don’t have any yet, don’t worry. It’s the fpj without the balance of the vinegar that can cause occasional mold growth if there is already pathogens present.

I have never tried with oats but I am sure it’ll work, especially since rolled oats have so much starch dust, similar to white rice. brown rice doesn’t have nearly enough starch to wash off, and barley is probably similar. But enough theorizing. Let me tell you what I HAVE seen work (besides white rice.) Cassava starch wash, cooked taro, potatoes, and perhaps most surprising of all, mushed up white bread and flour tortillas too. Hey, its got starch, and that is the most important thing next to using real milk.  Let us know how it turns out with the barley and oats!

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i’ve used batches that have developed a little pink or grey mold on top by removing it before straining. but if the whey doesn’t taste right, bad, or cheesy it shouldn’t be considered a good batch.

well. did you know that the original Korean word for what we call “FPJ” is “Green Juice From Heaven”? not kidding. some o.g. knf trivia… My second thought, after “divine microbial medicine” was sometimes sugar makes me feel high…and that green juice can sometimes turn alcoholic if it over ferments in the first stage. but this may not be the case at all. truly, i would have to agree with you (to a degree). I feel great when I drink fpj too (especially diluted in water with a slash of vinegar and LAB.) i once gave a girlfriend of mine some fresh LAB whey and she said after the first sip she felt a rushing feeling of energy and happiness. i think she reeeeaaally needed the microbes and her body knew right away it was a good thing.

sometimes if there isn’t enough sugar present in the fpj plant material it wont make a food vinegar. I find making it from the juice itself gives more consistent results. 1/3 plant juice 2/3 water, a splash of raw vinegar or a vinegar scoby. cover with breathable lid. if you have a well developed scoby it will speed up the process significantly. without adding any vinegar or scoby to inoculate the brew it can take up to 5 months to make vinegar. but you’ll grow your own scoby in the process.

Thank you for your reply, I am yet to make that one but it’s also on the list. Are you suggesting the yellowing is possibly from a lack of calcium phosphate and not because of my foliage spray solution not being balanced? I noticed it affected the younger plants more than the slightly older others but nothing too severe.

When making knfFuel (FAA) from the original recipe with just fish and brown sugar there is a 3-4 day window when you can “salvage” it if its gone wrong. typically the problem is not enough sugar. within 3-4 days of making it if it smells like bad fish adding more sugar can save it. if it goes longer without enough sugar or gets contaminated with water its not salvageable. the amazing thing is that this simple simple recipe of just fish and sugar is chock full of lactobacillus, which is one of the reasons its stores so well for so long. have faith. the microbes will do the rest.