which temperature need for using JMS, brown Sugar or maybe salt


Hi Drake, Hi Everyone! I am so glad to may ask you and please dont look at my mistakes, because schooltime is out since a long time. I learn here so much!! Thanks!! My husband and i have a permacultural-garden for self-sufficiency with vegetables and fruits. Because we go work, we could not make imo and so i want use jms. My question is: which temperature need them to start their work. Now we have nights with 15,8 f minus and the earth is frozen. My vegetationsaison is from april to octobre. Must i really wait 2-4 weeks after the first spraying with jms? and then water with the jms and the fertelizer also 3 times inthe next 3 weeks before i can plant or seed?

The next question is: we have here the ware in the ukraina and all food become expensive and so i think, if i can use salt not brown sugar?

Thank you for answering myΒ  questions

Silke from Bavaria

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How to culture microorganisms in winter: If the temperature of the
water drops below 18℃ (64.4℉), you need to use heating and insulation.
Pick a spot less affected by wind – inside a greenhouse is excellent – and be
sure to wrap the container tightly with insulation on all sides (bottom, side
and top). If the temperature is kept at 25℃ (77℉), foam will be vigorous;
but if you want to culture microbes that are active in low temperature, grow
them at 20℃ (68℉). At 20℃ (68℉), microbes that survive sub-zero temperatures (below 32℉) will propagate as well. JMS will completely change
the shape of your farming.


Foliar application of JMS: JMS can be applied on soil or leaves. If you
spray JMS regularly on the leaves and branches, microbial diversity will be
maintained on the plants and this prevents a particular pathogen dominating. Caution is needed so that the solution does not leave marks on the
plant. Spray marks left particularly on the fruits are a serious problem.
When applying on the leaves, take extra caution to filter the JMS thoroughly. Use something finer than a fine net, such as fabric. Also, before application, you must mix the solution with JADAM wetting agent. JADAM
wetting agent (JWA) coats the target evenly and helps in leaving no marks.
For 500 L (132 gal), use 20 L (5.3 gal) of JMS and over 3 L (0.8 gal) of
JADAM agent. You can add JADAM herb solution (JHS) or JADAM liquid fertilizer (JLF). Take care to filter when using JADAM liquid fertilizer
made from JADAM herb solution, water and leaf mold. is is a pesticide,
nutrient and fertilizer. For 500 L (132 gal), if you use more than 20 L (5.3
gal) of JMS, JADAM wetting agent will become less effective. JADAM
wetting agent is easily broken down by microorganisms. For foliar application, always use water that passed JADAM wetting agent test (explained
later). e method of using indigenous microorganisms from the local leaf
mold was developed by Hankyu Cho. It was a big hit in and abroad.
JADAM’s method is a result of years of effort to make this method easier
and more effective.



as for the salt u can add i think its up to 40% salt to brown sugar for FPJ but not pure salt that is to much sodium and will kill the ground if brown sugar is to much to buy right now id start using JLF instead no sugar needed just a lil sea salt same as JMS and if u r making JMS already the switch to JLF from FPJ is super easy

  • silkefrombavaria
    Hallo dagoofman, thank you for the list of all people. I heard in a podcast of drake, that he makes the FPJ like german Sauerkraut. Here in Germany i make sauerkraut with salt not with sugar, so i think i can also only salt for making FPJ. I want try it in the sommer and then i will write you about the experiment. Okay? Best wishes from Silke from Bavaria
  • dagoofman
    i urge you to NOT USE SALT you WILL KILL the soil and you will not be able to plant there till you remove the salts from the soil…… the salt is the reason things like sodium nitrate are bad to use as fertilizers plants eat the nitrogen but leave the salt behind in the soil after many uses the salt build up kills the soil (plants exposed to salt stress cease to grow immediately. At this stage, salt enters the cells through non-specific ion channels in the membrane, which then triggers a series of events within the cells that lead to production of stress hormones and a reduction in cell division and cell growth) (Salinity affects production in crops, pastures and trees by interfering with nitrogen uptake, reducing growth and stopping plant reproduction) (When salt concentrations in the soil are high, the movement of water from the soil to the root is slowed down. When the salt concentrations in the soil are higher than inside the root cells, the soil will draw water from the root, and the plant will wilt and die.) (high soil salinity inhibits seed germination due to the low osmotic potential created around the seed, which prevents water uptake ) (Plants are very sensitive to sodium and so adding table salt to the garden will kill plants. Some use it to kill weeds, but the same sodium that kills weeds, will spread through the soil and kill many other plants) (The displacement of other mineral nutrients by sodium ions can also affect soil quality. Compaction can increase while drainage and aeration decrease, generally resulting in reduced plant growth. Damage from salt in the soil can be delayed, with plant symptoms not appearing until summer or even years later.) (Large quantities of the salts dissolved in the water, such as sodium and chloride, are diffused into the soil and remain there after the water has evaporated. The salt stunts the crops and can even make soils infertile in the long run.)
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Hi, thank you for your help!! I mean at which temperature can i use the jms at the soil. Must the soil have a temperature of 18 celsius?

  • dagoofman
    i would think as long as the ground is not hard frozen it would be fine …i start using JMS after the snow melts and the ground starts to unfreeze i feel it helps to unfreeze the soil a bit faster then just covering with tarps
  • silkefrombavaria
    Hi dagoofman, thank you for answering my question, it helps me a lot! I just starting the work with knf and i am superexited. Where can I ask, if are some people here in germany work with knf?
  • dagoofman
    theres a list of people here https://knfcertification.org/pages/users?utf8=%E2%9C%93&farmer_name= but theres no thing yet to say where people are
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