The bones won’t dissolve. The chemical reaction between the vinegar and the bones puts Calcium and Phosphorous into solution. The warmer the vinegar, the faster it happens. It won’t go crazy most of the time. If you want to see a more violent reaction, heat the vinegar first. If it starts steaming, its too hot and you are cooking off the compounds that make it vinegar.
- FlereusBioAG answered 6 years ago
Regular white vinegar has been distilled. It can be used, but even the crappy apple cider vinegar from the same brands at bog box stores would be better.
- FlereusBioAG answered 6 years ago
White mold growing on top is a sign it is done. I hope you poured it off.
If mold is growing after you pour it off, most likely you need to supersaturate it.
- drake answered 5 years ago
Hi there,
- Yes, so here is the deal: when adding sugar you should stir the solution, at first you’ll notice how fast the sugar sinks and dissolves, when aproaching saturation the sugar will sink in “slow motion” and need more stirring to dissolve, but when you see sugar precipitating at the bottom and not dissolving, regardless of how much you stirr, then the FPJ is saturated.
- Most likely yes, if not i guess it will be very close to, but just add a little bit of sugar until you notice it precipitating at the bottom, then you know for sure its super saturated.
- You could try, in theory the microbes there wont differ but keep in mind that the sugar is no longer dry, so im not sure if it will create enough (if any) osmotic pressure to extract everything from the new plant material. Anyway, you still could use that sugar in the kitchen for example.
- Not sure i understood what you mean here.
- Outside I would say 3-7 days, depending on your specific conditions, temperature mainly. Just check that yourself, if you see bubbles in the FPJ, they are still there, when bubbles become less intense its an indicator the food is running out and the microbe population is fading. When the solution starts smelling like alcoohol then it’s already degrading, it is still usable but less effective. In the fridge at least 6 months.
- If you think of it, banana flower is a material with more in common with fruit than with the tender parts of plants we use in FPJ, I believe that’s why Chris does the sugar cap. So I would say sugar cap for fruit or fruit like plant materials, stuff which is denser and has more fiber in it when compared to regular tender shoots or leaves (which is what we use in FPJ).
Hope it helps!
- Hugo Matos answered 5 years ago
I didn’t get the desired activity I was after until I started using worm castings from my woods next to some rotting wood, and I also used 3 times as many potatoes as the JADAM book recommends, like Chris Trump recommends in his YouTube video. Hope this helps
- Scottie Fame answered 5 years ago
Chris Trump has talked about making vinegar from FPJ there is a how to vid also in his FPJ vid on banana flowers he talks of making vinegar from it, its kinda a FFJ also so id think either would work fine
- dagoofman answered 5 years ago
i would think if u harvested local microbes they would be fine they have been living in the soil for 1000’s of yrs in a since it is the whole point of collecting Indigenous MicroOrganisms is to collect the strongest healthiest microbes in your area that have been there forever building the forest floor and surviving all the harsh elements breed them and introduce them in large numbers into your soil
- dagoofman answered 5 years ago
There would be many factors to look into id think comparing your diet and what nutrients u might be lacking to the plant u r fermenting and what nutrients it may hold the added microbial activity is always a plus Dr. Park says “3% of r total body weight is germs both good and bad the highest of those r lacto” Lacto is everywhere in our r air on r skin it is one of the main microbes that ferment r FPJs along with other yeasts and microbes that live on that plant to break it down it is the main reason we do not mix plants when making FPJs so that the microbes do not compete also it could be a sugar high from the FPJ especially if u do not have a lot of sugar in your diet and as long as u used edible plants to make the FPJ there should be no bad juju i hope this may help u look into more aspects to find answers
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- dagoofman answered 5 years ago
Yes IMO will survive, they just go into hibernation and will wake up in the spring time. Snow is great for insulation actually, so they will be going to sleep in the winter under that layer of snow.
- Hugo Matos answered 5 years ago
It is possible to burn them on a propane grill. The ideal way is to put them in some sort of column with the heat source at the bottom so they are able to completely char. When the smoke turns clear the process is complete. Remove and extinguish the Bones.
- drake answered 5 years ago